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Pair charged with taking part in Syria war

A Sydney man alleged to have organised Australians to fight in Syria’s civil war, and another who was allegedly on his way to the frontline, are now behind bars.


A four-month operation by the Australian Federal Police and NSW Police snagged the pair on rarely used foreign incursion charges on Tuesday.

The first man, Hamdi Alqudsi, is alleged to be the linchpin in a criminal group recruiting Australian men to fight with terrorist groups Jabhat al-Nusra and affiliates of al-Qaeda.

The 39-year-old allegedly organised travel and overseas contacts for seven Australians, including 23-year-old Amin Mohammed, who was arrested at Brisbane Airport on Tuesday.

Alqudsi, of St Helens Park, will be freed on bail provided he can raise a $10,000 surety, Bankstown Local Court heard.

He is banned from contacting Mohammed and prosecution witnesses, many of whom are overseas, before his next court appearance in February.

Earlier, NSW commissioner of special operations Catherine Burn told reporters his arrest “puts a significant dent” into a network recruiting young Australians for the war.

At Burwood Local Court, Mohammed’s lawyer Peter Allport argued his client had planned to travel to Syria, but there was no evidence to suggest it was to take part in the war.

“They may have been going as humanitarian workers,” he told the court.

Mohammed had planned to travel on to Turkey and Denmark to meet up with a girl as part of a family arranged marriage, he said.

Mr Allport also argued recorded phone conversations should be interpreted liberally given they were in Arabic, which relies on “description, emotion and colour” for effect.

Mohammed was granted bail on conditions including that he surrender his passport, but was unable on Tuesday to raise $5000 a surety.

He will remain behind bars until a February court date.

The AFP says around 100 Australians are suspected of being involved in the Syrian conflict at the moment.

Investigations into others involved in the network are continuing, with more arrests expected.

The men are not involved in any terrorism threat against Australia.

The AFP says Alqudsi and Mohammed are the first Australians to be charged with foreign incursion offences in relation to the Syrian conflict.

Victorian grandfather Gerard Michael Little, 46, was in September sentenced to seven months and six days jail in time already served for the same offence.

Little had pleaded guilty to training to fight in the West Papuan independence movement.

The Crimes (Foreign Incursions and Recruitment) Act 1978 makes it an offence to travel to a foreign state – or assist someone to travel – with the intention to engage in hostile activity, or to train or be trained in hostile activities.

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Slater’s knee concern here to stay: Storm

Melbourne coach Craig Bellamy is resigned to star fullback Billy Slater having to nurse his knee problem for the rest of his rugby league career.


Slater overcame a knee injury to be one of standout players in Australia’s World Cup final win over New Zealand in England at the weekend.

He had hurt his left knee a fortnight before the final and only made the decider after intensive treatment.

“When he first hurt it in Origin last year, the medical advice then was that it’s going to be an issue for the rest of his career,” Bellamy said on Tuesday.

“It’s going to take some managing and that’s what it is at the moment.”

But Bellamy said he never had concerns about Slater playing in the final.

“We were very confident that Tim (Kangaroos coach Tim Sheens) and the medical staff wouldn’t let him play unless he was (right),” Bellamy said.

Bellamy also took the chance for a quiet dig at NRL referees ahead of next season.

“It was really good to see he got a couple of penalties as well,” Bellamy said of Slater in the World Cup.

“He was taken without the ball a couple of times and the English referee picked that up.

“Hopefully there’s a couple of signs there that our referees might be able to see the same thing next year.”

But Bellamy was less pleased about the scheduling pressures on the game’s biggest stars like Slater.

He would like to see a shorter World Cup format in future and would prefer no NRL games during the State Of Origin schedule.

The Storm’s World Cup representatives won’t resume training with the club until late January.

“All of us here at club-land are worried about the workload of our elite players,” Bellamy said.

“Us coaches have been going on about that for a while.”

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Barba can expect tough reception: Price

Canterbury legend Steve Price says Ben Barba’s possible first round NRL matchup with the Bulldogs next season could garner a similar reaction to that which Sonny Bill Williams was given in his first game against the blue and whites.


With the NRL draw to be released on Wednesday, rumours are rife Barba’s Brisbane will meet the Bulldogs at ANZ Stadium in the season’s first Friday night fixture as part of a blockbuster opening to the 2014 premiership.

Barba’s departure from Belmore wasn’t as controversial as Williams’ departure in 2008 but was greeted acrimoniously by certain sections of the Bulldogs Army.

Price said Barba could expect to receive a cool welcome from Bulldogs fans in a backhanded compliment for what he did for the club, similar to what Williams was given when he turned out against his former club in Roosters colours earlier this year.

“Benny was much loved by Bulldogs supporters, I’m sure they were sad to see him go,” Price said.

“Most people I think would understand why he left but they will rip into him.

“But he won’t let it worry him, he will just go out there and play his footy.

“As a player I would rather it was the first game, you get into it and move on.”

The probable Canterbury v Brisbane match on Friday March 7 will likely follow the Thursday night opener between bitter rivals South Sydney and Sydney Roosters at the same venue as the tricolours begin their premiership defence.

Other round one talking points include:

– Sam Tomkins’ first game for the Warriors

– William Hopoate’s first NRL game in over two years for Parramatta

– How Manly will respond to their grand final loss and;

– How Eric Grothe will perform in what will be his first game of NRL after three years of retirement if he turns out for Cronulla in a slated Monday night fixture.

Much focus will be on Jamie Soward’s first game for Penrith and a new-look St George-Illawarra outfit led by under siege coach Steve Price.

Gold Coast mentor John Cartwright will be keen for a good start to the season after a few lean years with former North Queensland coach Neil Henry alongside him in an assistant’s role.

Rookie coach Paul Green will coach the Cowboys in his first NRL game and Ricky Stuart returns to Canberra in a bid to reinvigorate the club with whom he won three premierships.

The ARL Commission has already confirmed the State of Origin dates for next season as 28 May (Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane), 18 June (ANZ Stadium, Sydney), and 9 July (Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane).

‘Hell yeah’ to Blanchett’s Oscar speech

Emma Stone was blown away by Cate Blanchett’s Oscar speech.


In Sydney promoting The Amazing Spider-Man 2 with her onscreen/offscreen beau Andrew Garfield (who plays Spidey), Stone enthused about female roles on film.

Movies like The Hunger Games: Catching Fire, Blue Jasmine and perhaps soon, the new adaptation Divergent, are not just hitting screens but storming the box office.

Stone says Hollywood seems to be waking up to the fact that movies with strong female roles can actually make money.

“I would hope so. Remember Cate Blanchett’s Oscar speech? How great was that. Hell yeah!” she says.

“There’s a lot of the population that wants to see movies with a female lead and it’s exciting to be around in a time where that is kind of at the forefront of people’s attention.”

In The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Stone plays Gwen Stacy, the brainy girlfriend of Peter Parker aka Spider-Man.

And she’d like to clear up just how much of a part she played in making sure Gwen was more than simply `the girlfriend’.

“The whole thing,” she jokes.

“I’ll just take credit for the whole thing. I wrote it, I directed it.

“(No) they were very clear about Gwen being her own woman and a really strong and independent character which is incredibly important,” she adds.

Stone says the writers even penned the script after watching the first film so it would suit her personal style of banter this time around.

Whether Gwen returns in The Amazing Spider-Man 3 is yet to be seen, especially with Shailene Woodley (who coincidentally stars in Divergent) cast as Parker’s other main love interest Mary Jane.

Woodley actually filmed a couple of small scenes for The Amazing Spider-Man 2, but they were cut, because director Marc Webb wanted to make sure the film was really Gwen and Peter’s movie.

As to whether Stone has any advice for a future girlfriend of Spidey, Stone laughs.

“Shailene does not need any advice. She is a badass,” she says.

“She is doing just fine. I seek advice from HER often.”

* The Amazing Spider-Man 2 releases in Australian cinemas on April 17

Indonesia possibly unaware of incursions

Indonesia was possibly unaware Australian Navy vessels made repeated incursions into their waters, until it was told by Australia.


Evidence provided during a Senate committee inquiry into the incidents suggests Indonesian authorities could have remained ignorant to the breaches between December 2013 and January 2014 under the federal government’s Operation Sovereign Borders.

“They certainly didn’t raise it with us or draw it to our attention,” head of Customs and Border Protection Michael Pezzullo told the committee on Friday.

“Whether they were aware or not through their own systems I just don’t know.”

Incursions were reported to senior Australian officials on January 15, who passed information on to the Indonesian government the next day.

Indonesia responded by stepping up its naval presence monitoring its southern border.

Australia has since confirmed there were six incursions, some of which may have occurred during the tow-back of asylum seeker boats.

Border protection authorities are assessing whether lapses in judgment contributed to the incidents, which have been described by academics as breaches of international law.

Operation Sovereign Borders commander Angus Campbell believes they were inadvertent.

“Knowing the culture and professionalism of both the Navy and the Customs and Border Protection Service it is quite frankly personally inconceivable that anyone would have wilfully done so,” he told the committee.

Mr Pezzullo can recollect no other instance of Australian government vessels crossing into a neighbours’ territorial waters and refuted suggestions it was deliberate.

“It’s inconceivable to me that in six occurrences … insubordinate defiance by intentionally going into territorial waters contrary to stipulation would have occurred,” he said.

Customs and Defence carried out a joint review of the incursions which made five recommendations to prevent further breaches.

Inquiries are underway in relation to the professional conduct of relevant personnel, while training regimes are under review.

Lieutenant-General Campbell is confident such incursions will not be repeated.

“The thoroughness of the review, its broad recommendations and the more immediate active control measures that were put in place will ensure that it doesn’t happen again.”

Mr Pezzullo said it is government policy to prevent asylum seeker boats illegally entering Australia’s territorial and contiguous waters.

As part of its operation the government has spent $2.5 million on life boats to send asylum seekers back to Indonesia.

The orange craft have been pictured washed-up on shore in Indonesia and the committee was told there will be no attempts to retrieve them.

“They are treated as consumable items once they are used … (they) do not need to be returned or sought,” Mr Pezzullo said.

Dodger Wilson ready to hit SCG for six

Explaining cricket to Americans is like trying to complete a Rubik’s Cube blindfolded.


But the biggest cult figure in Major League Baseball, Los Angeles Dodgers pitcher Brian Wilson just gets it.

In January, while teammates were complaining about their looming 15-hour trip to Sydney, zany Wilson and his world famous beard were already here.

On vacation. At the SCG. For the Ashes.

“I drove by the stadium, I knew cricket was huge over here so thought I’d check the schedule,” said Wilson.

“I found out they were playing the Ashes.

“I just went out on my own. Showed up asked if I could come in and watch.

“We (Australia) haven’t fared against England too well in the past but we seem to have walloped them this time.”

Wilson is able to rattle off terminology like overs, bowlers, batsmen and centuries like he grew up with Bradman and not Babe – plus he’s calling Australia “we”.

And as the benchmark for facial-haired athletes and clutch, championship-winning pitchers – Wilson would have appreciated Mitchell Johnson’s feats more than most.

His knowledge of cricket is just one reason why Dodgers’ manager Don Mattingly says about Wilson:

“Don’t judge the book by the cover.”

If you only watch one innings of Saturday night’s MLB season-opener between the Dodgers and Arizona, make sure it’s the eighth.

That’s when Wilson comes to the mound.

That’s when you need to “fear the beard”.

In 2010, that was the only phrase being chanted in San Francisco, as closing pitcher Wilson led the Giants to an emphatic World Series victory, finishing every playoff win with his signature cross-armed salute.

Virgin American Airlines even bearded one of their planes.

He once described himself in an interview as a “certified ninja”, but beneath the whiskers, the mangy mohawk and the masses of arm tattoos is an athlete who is anything but a gimmick and much more than a larger-than-life character.

In 2012, Wilson was cut by San Francisco after undergoing the second elbow reconstruction of his career.

Without the assistance of a club, the fittest pitcher in baseball rehabilitated himself and was picked up by the Dodgers as a free agent midway through last season.

“I didn’t want somebody training me with negative energy. I’m into it. I know what I want to do,” he said.

“When I’m on the mound, if I can say the most difficult thing I’ve done all day was my work-out, than pitching will be a lot easier.

“I don’t have time to think about negativity.”

Durant bags 35 as Thunder down Cavaliers

Kevin Durant scored 35 points and Serge Ibaka had 16 as the Oklahoma City Thunder held off a furious Cleveland comeback for a 102-95 NBA win over the injury-riddled Cavaliers on Thursday.


The Thunder won their 50th game of the season to close in on San Antonio for the best record in the NBA’s Western Conference.

Durant missed five of his first six shots, but the league’s top scorer finally found his touch. He has scored 25 or more in 33 straight games – the NBA’s second-longest streak since Michael Jordan did it 40 consecutive times (1986-87).

Three teams jockeying for playoff position in the tight Western Conference also got victories.

The Houston Rockets, currently in fourth place, got 28 points from James Harden in a 129-106 win over the Minnesota Timberwolves.

Turkish centre Omer Asik started in his place of injured Dwight Howard, who has an a strained left ankle, and scored 12 points as the Rockets won for the seventh time in 10 games to maintain a better record over the Portland Trail Blazers.

Portland also picked up a win on Thursday, defeating the Washington Wizards 116-103.

Wesley Matthews had 28 points and Damian Lillard added 23 points and 10 assists for the Blazers, who remained in fifth place with three victories in their last four games after a four-game losing streak.

Golden State recorded a tougher-than-expected 115-110 victory over the NBA-worst Milwaukee Bucks.

Stephen Curry had 31 points and 11 assists and Klay Thompson scored 29 as Golden State moved 18 games over .500 for the first time in 20 years.

The Warriors are in sixth place in the West ahead of Memphis and Dallas with 12 games left.

Barca still believe in Clasico chances

Barcelona midfielder Andres Iniesta has insisted they can turn around their poor away form and put themselves right back in the La Liga title race by beating leaders Real Madrid on Sunday.


The Catalans lie in third, four points adrift of Real, having won just one of their last five away games in La Liga.

However, Iniesta believes the Spanish champions showed in their two recent games against Manchester City in the Champions League they are still capable of beating anyone on their day.

“We have had bad days, like everyone, but no one can think that Madrid will beat us easily,” he told a press conference on Thursday.

“It is difficult to think that there are Barca fans that don’t believe in us.

“This team has won the right to believe in it no matter what the situation is.”

Barca boss Gerardo Martino looks set to name the side that started the home leg against City for just the second time all season.

That means Neymar and Cesc Fabregas will return after being rested for last weekend’s 7-0 win over Osasuna, with Pedro Rodriguez and Alexis Sanchez, who struck the winner the last time Barca met Real in October, dropping to the bench.

And Iniesta is urging his teammates to impose themselves on the game rather than being cowed by the atmosphere at the Bernabeu.

“We need to be Barca, to be brave. If we are not then it won’t go well for us.”

Madrid haven’t been beaten in 31 games in all competitions since the two sides met at the Camp Nou.

That run has allowed Carlo Ancelotti’s men to overtake Atletico Madrid and Barcelona, whilst also progressing to the Copa del Rey final and the quarter-finals of the Champions League.

Real suffered a blow midweek as 21-year-old forward Jese Rodriguez was ruled out for the rest of the season with cruciate ligament damage in his right knee.

That won’t affect Ancelotti’s starting line-up, though, as the likes of Luka Modric, Angel di Maria, Gareth Bale and Karim Benzema will return to the side after being rested from the start in the 3-1 win over Schalke on Wednesday.

New Cobain death scene photos released

With the 20th anniversary of the suicide of Kurt Cobain in April, Seattle police knew they would be getting plenty of questions about the Nirvana frontman.


So a detective reviewed the case files – including evidence photos and statements. He found no new information to change the police conclusion that Cobain took his own life, but did discover four rolls of undeveloped film from the suicide scene.

Late on Thursday, Seattle police released two previously unseen images from those rolls. One showed a box containing drug paraphernalia, a spoon and some things that look like needles on the floor next to half a cigarette and sunglasses. The other showed the paraphernalia box closed, next to cash, a cigarette pack and a wallet that appears to show Cobain’s identification.

“There was nothing earth-shattering in any of these images,” police spokeswoman Renee Witt said. “The detective went into the case files to refresh himself. The outcome of the case has not changed.”

Cobain’s body was discovered in Seattle on April 8, 1994. An investigation determined that days earlier Cobain had gone into the greenhouse of his large home and taken a massive dose of heroin. He then killed himself with a 20-gauge shotgun.

Earlier that year, Cobain had tried to kill himself in Rome by taking an overdose of tranquillisers.

Cobain, who was aged 27 when he died, sold millions of albums with Nirvana and helped popularise the heavy, muddy “grunge” rock in America’s Pacific Northwest, along with bands such as Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, Alice in Chains and Mudhoney.

Cobain grew up in the logging town of Aberdeen, Washington, about two hours southwest of Seattle. After he died thousands of young people converged on Seattle Centre, near the Space Needle, for a public memorial.

Though his death was ruled a suicide some refused to believe that, leading to conspiracy theories that Cobain had been killed.

In a statement on the Seattle Police Department’s online blotter, the detective who re-examined the case dismissed that speculation.

“Sometimes people believe what they read – some of the disinformation from some of the books, that this was a conspiracy. That’s completely inaccurate,” said Detective Mike Ciesynski, who found the four rolls of undeveloped crime scene photos. “It’s a suicide. This is a closed case.”

Church denies contriving to deny abuse

A senior Catholic Church official has denied he contrived a tactic to support the church’s legal dispute that former altar boy John Ellis was never abused.


Michael Casey had been asked by then archbishop, Cardinal George Pell, to check whether or not the internal church process had found in favour of Mr Ellis’s complaint of abuse by a priest at Bass Hill in Sydney in the 1970s.

Dr Casey, Cardinal Pell’s private secretary, told the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse he was shown a June 2005 email from him to the church legal team which said the church-appointed assessor did find “on the balance of probabilities” Mr Ellis was abused by Father Aidan Duggan.

However, the email went on to say that the director of the Public Standards Office, Michael Salmon, had mentioned there were reservations about Mr Ellis’s evidence and that as such the church authority had discretion to reject the assessor’s findings.

Dr Casey wrote the church was in a position in which “we can say the archdiocese has never accepted that Fr Duggan was responsible for the abuse Ellis alleges he suffered, either under the Towards Healing process or at law.”

On Friday, the hearing returned several times to the email, with commission chair Justice Peter McClellan pointing out that what Dr Casey had written was at odds with what Mr Salmon had told the commission.

Mr Salmon has said that he never doubted John Ellis’s claim, but that someone else had expressed reservations.

Dr Casey said it was possible he had misunderstood Mr Salmon, but that “I took care to try and capture it.”

Justice McClellan: “Dr Casey you knew when you were writing this document that the church was seeking to see whether or not it could legitimately defend (the Ellis law suit) by rejecting Mr Ellis’s story didn’t you?”

Dr Casey: “Yes. Yes your honour.”

When it was put to him by Justice McClellan that he had “worked very hard to contrive a way in which the church could deny the truths of Mr Ellis’s account”, Dr Casey replied that he did not “wilfully and untruthfully” misrepresent what Mr Salmon told him.

Monsignor John Usher, who became chancellor of the archdiocese in 2005, said he could not understand why the Towards Healing process in the case of Mr Ellis had taken so long.

Mons Usher, who had been heavily involved in a precursor to Towards Healing, said his approach to abuse victims was pastoral and abuse victims were usually believed and not asked to sign deeds of release.

He said Dr Pell approved the approach.

Dr Casey earlier said that when he advised Dr Pell that Mr Ellis was in an extremely fragile state, and his health was deteriorating, the cardinal advised: “We should leave it for a few months and then see where we are”.

Dr Pell is expected to give evidence on Monday.

Hodge on a high for T20 World Cup

Nearly a decade ago, Brad Hodge was told by Australian selectors he was over the hill and his limited-overs international career was finished.


The stinging appraisal was delivered with Australia looking at rejuvenating its team ahead of the 2007 World Cup, in which they claimed a fourth title.

Now, aged 39, the prolific runscorer is a vital component of Australia’s Twenty20 World Cup campaign in Bangladesh and is revelling in his role as the team’s “death batsman”.

Hodge admits the feedback hurt at the time, but his belief in his ability to play at the top level never wavered.

“It’s a huge shift in thinking,” Hodge said ahead of Australia’s opening match against Pakistan in Dhaka on Sunday.

“I got told (by a selector) at 30 years of age that I would never play one-day cricket or limited-overs cricket for Australia again.

“I look back now and think, nine years later, it sort of hurt a bit. I thought what a premature call that was.”

Hodge praised the approach of Australian cricket under new coach Darren Lehmann to bring back in-form veterans, which has also seen the impressive return of opener Chris Rogers to the Test team.

“It can only come down to the change in the (selection) panel: Lehmann, (captain) Michael Clarke, (and selector) Rod Marsh I would assume has a fair call,” he said.

“(Selector Andy) Bichel has seen me all around IPL and those sort of things.

“Chris Rogers averages 50 in first-class cricket so it’s not surprising we have come in and had an impact in this short period.

“The motive is that we want to win and we want to win every tournament – to do that you need to get the best players in.

“It’s a pretty simple formula I would have thought.”

Hodge has embraced his role as a late middle-order batsmen whose job is to close out an innings – or win matches at the death.

It is a task he was given by Rajasthan Royals mentor Rahul Dravid, and one he was wary of at first but has grown to love.

“They had a strategy that the top bowlers bowl at the start and at the end,” Hodge explained.

“(Dravid’s) theory was for me to face those guys at the back end of the innings.

“I said to him ‘that’s good but I think you are missing a trick – you are only asking me to face 20 balls; if I faced 50 I could get 100 and win a game’.

“But the facts were that over the course of the year I probably won three to four games batting down the order whereas maybe I would have only won one or two at the top.”

Retail workers win adult rate case

Retailers will have to pay their 20-year-old workers adult rates following a decision by the Fair Work Commission.


However, the workers will need to have been with their employer for more than six months to be eligible for a pay rise.

The decision has angered retailers, who say it will risk jobs.

They have called on the federal government to do everything in its power to halt the increase.

“This decision will prove detrimental to both employers and employees,” Australian Retailers Association executive director Russell Zimmerman said.

The commission found that a significant number of retail employees already had at least three years’ experience by the time they were 20.

It also found there was little difference in the work and duties of workers aged 20 and 21.

The discounted rate – 90 per cent of adult rates – for 20-year-old workers did not provide a fair and relevant minimum safety net, the commission decided.

The case was launched by the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees Association (SDA) which welcomed the commission ruling, adding that it will only bring beneficial employment outcomes.

“Paying younger workers less than the full adult rate is outdated and discriminatory,” the SDA said in a statement after the decision.

But the Australian Industry Group said the change was a blow to the retail industry at a time when trading conditions were tough.

“The commission’s decision to disturb the current system of junior rates risks destroying the job prospects of many young Australians,” the group’s chief, Innes Willox, said.

The new rates will be phased in over a year, starting on July 1, 2014.

Lesbian tilt, not abuse, ended friendship

Former Hey Dad! star Robert Hughes has told a court his friendship with an alleged victim’s mother faltered because the woman was sexually pursuing his wife.


Hughes said it was not because her daughter had disclosed his alleged sexual abuse.

The actor has pleaded not guilty to 11 sexual and indecent assault charges dating back to the 1980s and 1990s.

After weeks of prosecution evidence in which Sydney’s District Court has heard claims he abused five girls, the 65-year-old has now begun to tell his version of events.

Under cross-examination on Friday, Hughes agreed that he and his wife Robyn Gardiner regularly visited a good friend’s Sydney home for barbecues and parties.

But he emphatically denied ever going into a bedroom where his friend’s daughter slept and rubbing his hand against her vagina.

And though he agreed the barbecue invitations dried up after the girl decided to stay home from a joint family holiday, Hughes says this was because the child’s mother took an interest in Ms Gardiner.

“She was showing an interest in having sex with (my wife),” Hughes said on Friday.

“I had observed that she was wanting to spend more time with Robyn in close physical proximity … we made the decision that it would be better all round if we did not socialise with them anymore because it was upsetting to Robyn.”

Crown prosecutor Gina O’Rourke suggested that before the families’ friendship soured, Hughes had swum naked in the girl’s family pool and started “touching, grabbing and caressing” her underwater.

“I suggest that you did it to gauge her reaction, (to) see if she would yell out or complain to a parent or other adult,” Ms O’Rourke said.

“I did not,” Hughes said loudly.

“And I suggest to you that if she did, you could explain it away as just inadvertent,” the prosecutor went on.

“I suggest to you that (she) did not yell out, and that encouraged you to move on to more serious touching.”

Hughes was emphatic in his denials, sometimes looking toward the jury and shaking his head.

His evidence continues on Monday.